a active jw friend, just recently commented to me that the co said all these changes (eg.. 30 min.
public talk, less magazines publications...etc.
) is a sign of the great tribulation is sooooo close now, and the wts is preparing.. i chuckled, when he said that.
I remember when JFK was running for President the rumour was that a catholic in the White House would be the start of the great persecution.They even had a special AWAKE edition condemming the Catholic Church.When I asked a brother why was that, he said because of the forthcoming election.
Still waiting over forty years on.
http://www.alamut.com/subj/the_self/misc/egoism.html.
robinson: egoism .
egoism .
Thanks Eclipse there is a lot to ponder over in that --- food for thought as they say.
Glad you are posting ,nice to see you to see you nice.
"receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before armageddon.
" (the watchtower, 9/15/41, page 288.
this quote from the watchtower concerns the release of judge rutherford's book children in 1941.. now, calling the book "the lord's provided instrument" sounds to me to be saying the book was inspired, just like the books in the bible.. apparently at that time, the jws considered judge rutherford as their direct communication channel with jehovah himself!.
If you look closely at the bottom of the page under the picture of the Judge it is written that a typsy bystander asked a pretty young woman," who would be at the lecture "and that the bar tender asked for some leaflets and gave them out to his customers.Surely old Rutherford would feel well at home with all this going on.
"receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before armageddon.
" (the watchtower, 9/15/41, page 288.
this quote from the watchtower concerns the release of judge rutherford's book children in 1941.. now, calling the book "the lord's provided instrument" sounds to me to be saying the book was inspired, just like the books in the bible.. apparently at that time, the jws considered judge rutherford as their direct communication channel with jehovah himself!.
It looks like he's trying to look like an ancient worthy according to that picture.
new york times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/nyregion/30hotel.html?_r=1&ref=nyregion&oref=slogin.
hotel where dodgers celebrated a title is up for sale .
From what I can gather property prices are falling and now is not the best time to sell. Could this be desperation on the part of the Borg?
Fcanal ,that's a shock!
new york times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/nyregion/30hotel.html?_r=1&ref=nyregion&oref=slogin.
hotel where dodgers celebrated a title is up for sale .
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i need some help on the holy trinity.
my husband is studying with the witnesses (he's not one of them yet), and is totally buying into the idea that god, jesus and the holy spirit are all separate, not (as i've tried to explain) separate, but also one in the trinity.
i have pointed out the scriptures in john that reference god as the word, and then jesus as the word later.
You can argue about the nature of Jesus untill you are blue in the face but think about this; He created everything and does everything that God does now if that does not make him God I don't know what does, also add that to the fact that according to the bible there is only one God (with a large G) .
The alternative ,as the Witlesses believe,gives you Two Gods who are worshipped.I remember back in the early sixties the Jdub book Make Sure of All Things had to be replaced because in it they tried to make out that creature worship was wrong until some one pointed out that Jesus was created, according to the Watchtower doctrine, and I don't think they could make their mind up whether Jesus should be worshipped or not.
Personally I think Jehovah changed his name to Jesus because Jehovah got a lot of bad press through the years and needed a new brand image at the time.That is why John says, He, meaning Jesus,was begotten , notice he doesn't say he was created.
So you pays your money and you takes your choice only don't give it to the Wacktower.
so, first he calls me at work, we've been getting along fine, and asks me the % of how much i want to be in the truth.
i told him 50/50.
i like the spiritual aspect of it, the people, etc.
Do not let your children go anywhere near the Kingdumb Hall.If you want to teach them Christianity take them to a main stream church for a balanced religious education.
I would say that taking them near a Witless meeting place is like letting them play near a motorway, very dangerous. It would be a good idea to suggest to your husband that before you have children together that both of you go to one or two of the main stream churches to see how they compare with the Jdubs.Go together for some other religious instruction you can tell him that it can always be rejected if it's not what you want.If he is afraid to take that route ask him is his faith so weak that it won't stand up to comparison first hand.
Think of all the GENERATIONS of children that have been born to the J Witnesses, who are now old, that have spent their lives in futile persute of a make believe promise.Think of all those wasted lives that could have been spent doing something really worthwhile.
when i was 9 i wanted to be daisy duke from the dukes of hazzard, but had to put aside the dream when i realised my legs weren't going to ever get any longer.. when i was 12 i wanted to be ghandi, but realised wars wouldnt stop because i missed breakfast.. when i was 16 i decided that by leaving the borg and living fast and hard enough being alice cooper was achievable.. now i'm 32 i think i'd quite like to have the sensuous, striking confidence and certainty of helen mirren when i grow up.. who did you want to be and why?.
I'm waiting to grow up !
